Matt.E.J (Founder, Organic Beat Sessions)

Step into the beat-laden universe of Matt.E.J, founder of Organic Beat Sessions, who brings the vibrant LA beat scene into your headphones with his journey from freestyling maestro to beat-making virtuoso. Our chat traverses the landscape of Matt.E.J's musical evolution, from the punk rock and hip-hop infused streets of South Bay to his current resonant projects "The Warm Up" album and "Kitty Funk." Each beat and bar reveals the intricacies of navigating collaborations and the pulsing heart of live performances, offering an intimate look into the life of a creator deeply embedded in the culture.

Our sonic exploration doesn't stop at the artist's tale; it's about the essence of music creation itself. Matt.e.j peels back the curtain on the production process, sharing indispensable nuggets for up-and-comers, from the seduction of gear acquisition to the alchemy of turning a four-bar loop into a full track. Listeners get a rare peek into the communal spirit of beat-making, where shared samples and late-night sessions with fellow artists ignite the spark of inspiration, showing that the journey of a Beatmaker is never a solo ride.

As the rhythm winds down, we pay homage to the San Pedro community and the support systems that keep the music playing. Balancing the rigors of daily life with the pursuit of passion, Matt.e.j's story is a testament to the unwavering dedication it takes to craft the beats that make our world turn. So tune in and let the rhythm take you—this is not just a podcast; it's a gateway to the pulse of the beat-making community.

Intro Music: "Rubato Love" from YHWH is LOVE by Jahari Massamba Unit (Listen Here)
Featured Music: From Matt.e.j's Soundcloud and Bandcamp's Discography Soundcloud & Bandcamp
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Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:01

What does that sound, you ass?

Speaker 1: 0:11

Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Kick back, relax with the host, golden Mind.

Speaker 2: 0:46

Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Welcome to the Rec Show podcast, a show dedicated to beat makers around the world. Alright, check, check one, two. Peace and love. Everybody. Go to mine here for the Rec Show podcast. Welcome in, man.

Speaker 2: 3:06

I want to say thank you to everybody that's been tapping in to the Rec Show podcast. New subscribers to the YouTube channel. Man, we're doing some amazing things. I think we're. We hit 114 subscribers right now. So you know, every day we get one. You know, I mean I'm. You know it's a blessing man. Everybody that's sharing the episodes on Instagram and Twitter and any other social media outlets. Man, thank you again. Everybody's been tapping in every week. Thank you, my number one supporter right now. That's my only membership member, dawn Proctor. So shout out to you Thank you for your thank you for your support, your financial support. And yeah, man, this week has been amazing. Man, I hope everybody's counting their buses and not any problems.

Speaker 2: 3:55

This week we came out with episode number eight for the Beat Makers Corner man. So if y'all don't know what the Beat Makers Corner is, it's basically a YouTube segment just a little branch off of the Rec Show podcast man, just where we showcase the physical media aspect of the beat making journey. Alright, so I'm showcasing CDs, I'm showcasing thumb drives, I'm showcasing vinyl, I'm showcasing cassettes, I'm showcasing anything. However, my fellow mutants, my fellow beat makers, music producers and composers put out their music and you know I grabbed some. I'll showcase it like that. So this week was Q&O rap names and Phil Spector's color, the color music experiment. I hope I got that. Right now my brain is all over the place. But episode number eight, tap it in on the YouTube channel. Alright, but anyway, let's get in today, let's get. Oh yeah, last week we got to talk about, we got to talk about King John Il man. That was a dope episode. If y'all haven't tapped into that episode. Tap into that wherever you get, or listen to podcast and it's on YouTube as well, man. So tap into that. Now.

Speaker 2: 5:20

Let's get into this week, man, this week last week we was in New York. We're going to take a train or a plane or a bus and we're going all the way on the other side of the United States Los Angeles, california. Man, somebody's been doing some amazing work, man, I've seen his beat videos on Instagram. I've also seen him in record stores and then the main way I saw him was during the pandemic. Man, they were doing like live beat sets via. However, they were doing it, but the locations where they were doing it for the organic beat sessions was some of the craziest locations I've ever seen. Man, I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 2: 6:07

So during that time, that's when I got in touch with and became a fan of my next guest man, or today's guest. He is and let me get my show nose to make sure I'm saying anything right so he is the founder of organic beat sessions. Man, his soundcloud is heavy. He's always been a part of the Fripper Beat Club in LA, I think, and you can see him just carrying it on beat performances. Man, inside of a record store, which one day I'm going to go there, man, I'm only in Texas, so I'm going to stay today and make it there one day. But he's also got put out a new album called the Warm Up this year in 2024. He's also got a Kitty Funk single with some heavy hitters, man to Key, and he knows man. Man, they've been previous guests on the show. So, yo, man, without further ado, I want you to welcome the one and only Maddie J to the show. Maddie J, what's up, man?

Speaker 1: 7:12

What's up, man? That's a hell of an intro, thank you.

Speaker 2: 7:16

Yo man, listen, man, and that's just a little small part of what I mean, like I don't want to give up everything. So that's why we're going to have this little conversation, geek out a little bit, man, you know, I know, you know it's synthesizers, samplers, you know laptops, like however you make your beats. We're going to talk about all of that, man. But welcome to the rex show man. Finally, I get to have you on in season four, man. You've been doing some amazing things, so I got to give you your flowers, especially with organic beat sessions. Man, that is some amazing work and we're getting to talking about that. But Maddie J, maddie J, where is that your? Is that your name, or is that a name that you came up with?

Speaker 1: 8:06

It's so funny, man, that's actually a nickname it just kind of stuck with me since middle school.

Speaker 1: 8:11

You know, j is the first initial of my last name and my friends always used to call me Maddie J. I used to spell it with a Y, but funny enough, I googled it. I was like, alright, what if I start putting out music? And all that came up was like one of the dudes from the bachelor was nicknamed Maddie J and that's all that came up was just like pop culture columns. I was like, oh, I got to change it, so I just. I was like, oh, that fits, you know. So that's that's how that spelling came to be Wow, wow, nice and simple man, yeah, yeah nice and simple man.

Speaker 2: 8:44

Well, listen, you know Maddie J man. How long have you been creating music and when did you like? What did you start out making music with?

Speaker 1: 8:58

Alright, so we got to take it back to like 2012. I used to like to freestyle and rap with a group of friends, and one of them introduced me to Fruity Loops FL 12 actually, that's what I started on, and around that same time we came into contact with Dutchie, dutch Massive.

Speaker 2: 9:21

You know, huge shout out to Dutch man yeah, yeah, that's like big, big bro right there.

Speaker 1: 9:28

Yeah, no, we found out he used FL and he was showing us all these tips and tricks and then that got the ball rolling from there. And then he introduced me to Ableton. But it really didn't click until my roommate he showed me how he used it because he was DJing on Ableton and it just all clicked on how you use the clips, on how you arrange it. And I want to say around like 2017 is when I was like, alright, fully locked in with Ableton from that point on.

Speaker 2: 9:59

Wow, wow, you know they like. They say there's no difference between DAW's, it's just you know they all do the same thing. It's just how you interpret that they do. They do what you needed to do, but Ableton is a powerhouse. Like what was that transition like? Going from Fruity Loops to Ableton?

Speaker 1: 10:22

And the main thing was just less screens and menus. Like in Fruity Loops there's a menu for everything, whereas Ableton is a little bit more like you open up a track, it's right there. You can put all your audio effects down below to MIDI track. You can just it's. I just like the layout a lot more and as I got deeper into it I was like oh, this is, this is a little bit more customizable and you find out little ways to tweak stuff. You know how you have your your clips. You can change the start point of a loop or however you want to time it out with the warping that's. I gotta say Ableton's warping is yeah, that's what really kind of sold me on it is being able to manipulate audio like that.

Speaker 2: 11:06

Wow, wow man. So you know, one day I might have to hit you up on some Ableton, because I'm thinking you're like I've been using machine and it's cool, it does what I need to do. I've been using it for the last seven years but I feel like it's reached its limit and I feel like Ableton might bring me to a different level. So you know, I might hit you up on the IGD. I'm like yo, I need help.

Speaker 1: 11:32

Yo, anytime, man, anytime I got you.

Speaker 2: 11:34

Yeah, man saying Pedro, south Bay, california, man, what was it like growing up there? Like and you know you listen into the different vibes and the music that people were playing, like what's it? What was that music scene like in that area?

Speaker 1: 11:52

Oh man. So I mean I went through a lot of different phases. When I was really young I was pretty heavy into like punk rock and then that kind of fell adjacent with like scone reggae, which was that's a pretty big scene out here. But from there my neighbor I grew up with, like his dad, was the one that showed me guru and diggable planets. And around that same time I found some other friends that were getting into, like you know, golden era classic hip hop and it was all about, you know, tribe call quest, far side, you know all the greats. And yeah, that was around the same time where I was like getting interested in and rapping and whatnot as well. So don't don't really do that too much nowadays, but that also led into the beat making, you know.

Speaker 2: 12:41

Okay, yeah, so you can. You can make your own beats and rap over your own beats.

Speaker 1: 12:47

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how a lot of people start off, you know, especially with the beat making.

Speaker 2: 12:51

Yeah, man, you know a lot of my guests like. They were like yo, man, I used to you know rap, but I didn't have beats. So I just started like wanting to make beats and then everybody in, like all my homies, were like yo, let me get a beat. You know this thing. I saw a lot of my guests started out and be making music, producing and composing anyway, man. So man, yeah man, I think everybody wanted to be an MC man. Hip hop is crazy, absolutely, man. What was your, what was your, your your rap name, man?

Speaker 1: 13:23

Oh, it was still just Maddie J.

Speaker 2: 13:25

Still Maddie J. Yeah, yeah, man. Do you remember the? Do you remember the first? What was your like best rhyme or best 16, that day that you wrote?

Speaker 1: 13:38

Oh man, I gotta recite that right now. No, no, no.

Speaker 2: 13:44

No, I'm just asking man. I'm just asking man, like cuz, you know a lot of our, a lot of my guests they take pride in in the words that they're saying. You know I'm saying especially over their own production. But when somebody else is trying to use their music to rap over a lot of them say like yo, it's not the move. Man, like a lot of a lot of people are just saying BS. You know I'm saying so, but that's why I asked that question. I just wanted to see if you were like you know you're nice with it. Yeah, you gotta be nice with it.

Speaker 1: 14:18

Right, right, right, absolutely. I want to say like when it came to rapping, my number one thing was always and and the homie Dutch would always say this to me too of, like you know, just just projecting and having confidence and and what I was saying, and you know, really using your voice to get those points across.

Speaker 2: 14:36

But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 14:37

I mean that's yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's pretty much it. But once I found beats, it was just kind of like alright, like you know, I I still, I still dabble. I actually wrote something like last week, so it's not like I fully ever let go of it, you know but beats definitely started to take the, the main stage, the priority, and I was like alright, I'm gonna go all into this, you know.

Speaker 2: 15:01

Alright, man, man, so let me, let me take, let me take the listeners my into the Internet. So on a journey, man, we're gonna go back in your history and when you were growing up, what were like who? Who are you around? I don't know if it's maybe brothers and sisters, mom, dad, you know, grandparents, uncles, your friends, who are you around and what were they playing? I know punk rock was one one of them, but for their different genres of music, that that you gravitated to, that stuck with you to this day.

Speaker 1: 15:43

You know, my dad was always kind of a kind of a jazz head and he you know what one of my earliest music memories is him showing me like. So what?

Speaker 1: 15:52

by a Miles Davis and yeah, he's like oh, you know, the trumpets kind of sound like you're saying so what? I was like, oh, shit, ok. And then my uncle on my mom's side of the family, he's, he's, he's really deep into jazz and even to this day will trade stuff. He'll give me a bunch of names I've never heard of and, yeah, I'll look him up, sample him, just listen to him. So jazz has always been there a little bit. You know, I remember coming home from from church every Sunday, my dad always have a 88.1 K jazz always playing. So yeah, definitely some fond memories there.

Speaker 2: 16:28

Wow, like what was so? Your dad was the one that was like putting you on to all these different types of music. It was your data musician as well.

Speaker 1: 16:39

You know, he always kind of dabbled, like we had bongos in the house for a while and he would have this group of friends that would jam every so often I only remember them coming over a few times when I was a kid, but my mom also got a piano when she was really young and me and my brother were playing that for a little bit. And then when I got into about fourth grade, I went to the band and I was playing clarinet for a little bit.

Speaker 2: 17:10

Wow, another band guy. Okay, yeah, yeah, clarinet. What was that instrument like?

Speaker 1: 17:17

Like, did you try other instruments and they just didn't fit, or yeah, actually, yeah, I was playing clarinet for a little while and then, man, I would always turn around in band class and the percussion guys were always just messing around and looked like they were having a lot of fun. I was like, man, I wanna do that. So I wanna say middle school I kind of hopped over, got a drum set, started playing drums, had a little punk rock band with my friends, but I never sold or got rid of my drum set and as time went on and I got more into hip hop, I was like, okay, let me turn on fucking like ilmatic or something like that and just try to jam along or whatever. I was trying to listen to at the time and just trying to figure out these drum fills and what they were exactly doing.

Speaker 2: 18:08

Classics man. The classics man. What were like five albums that and it don't have to be any specific genre, but what were like maybe three albums, three albums that stick out to you to this day. You listen to them. You get that ghost bumpy feeling, like you did when you first heard it back in the day.

Speaker 1: 18:34

Oh man, that's the DeAngelo Voodoo you know all, still to this day. Throw on Linkin Park reanimation. It's a classic, that's classic. Yeah, and then shit, I gotta say Lab Cab in California by the far side, take a little hip hop.

Speaker 2: 18:58

Jeez man. Do you have like a favorite track off that album?

Speaker 1: 19:04

Bullshit.

Speaker 2: 19:05

Yeah, yeah, man. I'm trying to find that right now, man, because a lot of people get stuck on the far sides, like you know, running track, but they don't like. Come on, man, like they got so many other dope joints on all of their albums, man, dude that whole album.

Speaker 1: 19:30

Yeah, I mean I like Bizarre Ride as well. You know, which is great, that that Lab Cab album, I don't know man Like it was also like I had a lot of Limelire Kazaa shit. You know where you get a single track, but that was one of the first albums where I had like front to back. You know, yeah, listen to that thing all day, man.

Speaker 2: 19:51

Man, let me hold on, let me see if I can pull this up, yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:56

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:59

And this is produced by JD man. So, hey, I know, I mean J Dilla. Month was like last month, february. This is March 1st by the time we listened to this, but, man, can you hear that?

Speaker 1: 20:13

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:19

Woo man man.

Speaker 1: 20:24

Yeah, I think Questlove in an interview has like a funny story about that, about how you discovered J Dilla was hearing this live. He was like standing outside of a club or something and then he's like what is that kick pattern doing? And like have a run inside and hear what was going on, you know.

Speaker 2: 20:39

Man, yo man, yo man, jd man. Shout out to yo, shout out to JD man, you still living man. You know he's. You know we go back in the in the archives, man, check out the J Dilla episode. I did, you know, just showing homage and paying homage to James Duit Yancey man. That was man that took me almost two months to make. That you know, just gathering all the details and remembering where I was when I heard J Dilla production. Do you remember where you were when you heard, you know, one of JD's joints?

Speaker 1: 21:18

besides, besides the far sized bullshit, so I wasn't even realizing who it was. And he, he, he, he, he's all over all these. I'll even try and it turns out that, like I was listening to JD beats for a while but I didn't put two and two together and so I started to really like look into the liner notes on albums and stuff like that, I'm like, oh, who is this guy? And he kept popping up. And then once I Googled it, you know you find the shining and his his bigger stuff. But man, once I found welcome to Detroit. Phew, man, that shit is yeah, that that should go into the that, that top three question as well. Man, welcome to Detroit. It's damn.

Speaker 2: 22:00

Yeah, man, yo yo man, oh, like yo, you can still listen to it and it's still, even though it came out maybe 20 years ago, you know, maybe maybe 30 years ago, it still resonates with people. Man. That is, you know, like when I'm, when I'm making music. I hope one day it resonates like that, like 20, 10, 20 years from now. It can still have that, that feeling of just man just being an amazing joint to listen to man, is that, is that one of your goals when you make your production?

Speaker 1: 22:38

Oh, man Kind of you know like it's always great if the outcome is like oh, this, this is just timeless, you know. But I kind of just, I kind of just make what I'm feeling in the moment. You know I go back and forth from from sampling to loading up the STs, but it is always kind of great when you can't tell it's just a great track. You know what I mean. Yeah, Like who cares how you made it, it just sounds good, you know, yeah man, yeah, that's the best, that's the best type of production.

Speaker 2: 23:14

Man, when it just sounds good, it feels good. Yeah, man, I completely understand. Man. Man, okay, I gotta ask you about, after you figured out, you know, you were MCN and then you were like yo, I need to make music. You started making music, you started with FL, transitioned over to Ableton, what's I want to say, like what's subgenre were you like gravitating towards? Was it? I mean, was it in hip hop, or was it in rock, or you know what was it? What was the subgenre that you were kind of like honing in on?

Speaker 1: 24:03

as you were making production. Around that time, especially with the rapping aspect, I was watching a lot of KOTD grind time Like.

Speaker 2: 24:15

I really You're gonna win the first part.

Speaker 1: 24:17

Oh yeah, man, absolutely Like. I love the hard bars of just people going at it and just yeah, yeah. That should always just seem so clever to me how they could just like trash and make fun of each other man, and I don't know what it was about it, but yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:34

Man, who's your top five in Battle Rat man?

Speaker 1: 24:38

Oh man, I really, really liked Dumbfounded.

Speaker 2: 24:42

Oh yeah, he's dope, he's dope.

Speaker 1: 24:45

Cause some of those dudes just try to sound a little bit too hard and it comes off as corny to me, but I liked how he would just like he was smooth with his flow and you know, yeah, yeah, man, he was great. Oh man, it's been a while since I've looked into a lot of this stuff, but man, yeah, there were a couple of dudes out of Canada. I can't remember their names right now, but yeah, I think, that's. That's where King of the Dog was, though they were based out of Canada.

Speaker 2: 25:15

Canada. Yeah, pat Steele, your Western Pia, Pat Steele.

Speaker 1: 25:18

Yeah, that's who I'm trying to think of. Yeah, Pat Steele was great. Yeah, yeah man.

Speaker 2: 25:23

Yeah, Canada got a lot of, got a lot of killers. Man on the Battle Rat scene, man, it's not just, you know, United States, or even in the UK. The UK got some heavy hitters too.

Speaker 1: 25:35

But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:37

I'm like I've been watching. Yeah, I feel so strange I watch. I watch a lot of like URL KOTD Grind Time. I've been watching. There's another one man, we're man. I can't remember the battle league, but man there's so many battles man.

Speaker 2: 26:00

It's like, wow, you know, like so many people that are clever with words and especially doing that in front of other people, man, like it could be hundreds, maybe thousands of people. Like I want to ask you, like, when you're performing your music in front of, in front of crowds, like do you even notice the crowd or are you just locked into your production and getting it and expressing yourself that way?

Speaker 1: 26:33

Man, it's kind of funny and I've had this conversation with people to where, like, I'm more comfortable if it's a packed room and people are just vibing out. But when it's just like 10 people who are like also producers, just like standing there waiting for you to play beats, that's when I'm like. I'm just like kind of looking down at my SP the whole time, you know, but like, if it's like a packed room and everyone's just vibing out, I'm a lot more comfortable with that, you know.

Speaker 2: 27:01

Yeah man, yeah man. I you know I've only done maybe four shows, but I don't know. I think I kind of like zone out a little bit and then I'll pull out a little bit just to say something to the people, you know, just to make sure everybody's still rocking. But you know, I've only gotten done four shows, but you have done almost yo. You've done a lot of shows all over man. Like yo you've been like I think you've done performances for Today's Future Sound. I think you've done Organic Beat Sessions, I think you, I think you might have been on, were you on Beat Cinema as well.

Speaker 1: 27:46

Yeah, oh yeah, wave Room, shout out, wave Room, man.

Speaker 2: 27:49

Yeah, shout out to Wave Room. Man, beat Cinema. Man, like what? Where else have you performed at?

Speaker 1: 27:56

Um, I want to say like, like, one of my favorite times was 2021, going out to my brother lives in Bushwick and Elliot invited you know a few of the global beats site for Today's Future Sound guys and gals out out to Brooklyn and I got to perform at Wonderville where they have the Donut Lounge and the sampler and then, um, oh man, blink, quantum and shout out Vicky, cassis, man, she lined that up.

Speaker 1: 28:31

Her brother too, marcus, he's insane with the beats, crazy guitar player. But yeah, that was. That was a cool little little week trip that I took out there and got to do, got to do some shows.

Speaker 2: 28:43

Wow, yo, shout out. To shout out to Vicky Cassis man. Um, they, I think they have QSTV, I think that's what they broadcast on. But shout out to the Donut Lounge Beat Cinema man. Yo, yo, these are amazing, um, amazing venues and people putting them on. You know that's. You know, I'm just looking at it from IG because I always wanted to come to a beat cinema one. So I'm a little closer now from Japan. But yo, one day I'm going to get the beat cinema man, because that room stays rocking man. Just the lighting, the experience. What was that like? Performing it for beat cinema and the Donut Lounge?

Speaker 1: 29:29

Oh, so um, I actually haven't performed for Donut Lounge. I was just saying I performed at Wonderville.

Speaker 2: 29:35

Oh, wonderville, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:36

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's just the same place they have it. Um, beat beat cinema is great. Man, I, I, I love Rockin' for Beat Cinema. We just did my um, my release party, kind of quote unquote. Right, I played my whole album there. It was at one of their, their newer venues, the Stowaway in downtown LA. But even before that man like I was just going to beat cinema, I was going, you know, 2012,. You know, low end theory still happening. I would go to low end a lot on the Wednesdays. Um, oh, wow, yeah.

Speaker 2: 30:10

Yeah, so you were part of that too, wow.

Speaker 1: 30:15

I didn't perform there, but I went to many, many a low end theory, you know yeah, many shows.

Speaker 2: 30:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, if it was still there, man, I would probably take a plane there and just to just to soak up that energy, man, like, what was that energy like in for low end theory.

Speaker 1: 30:33

Oh man. Well, just by the way, they kind of have a reincarnation where daddy Kev is now doing scenario. Definitely check that out, yeah, at the love song bar, and he, he was one of the two guys that I believe founded, or just you know, started, low end theory, right, but man, those shows were insane. Man, like I would. I would see, you know, sango, my design cause, all organism, some like heavy, heavy hitters and they're.

Speaker 2: 31:01

You know, that's 20, 30 minutes down the freeway for me you know, wow, wow, man, where, like what was the most memorable performance you saw at at that venue?

Speaker 1: 31:20

Dude. I, uh, I re dude. You know who tore it down every time was free the robots. I don't really know what dude's doing nowadays, but any dude, that guy would kill it. He would get the whole crowd move in and like go from different genres and styles. It would be like slapping one minute and kind of laid back the next, like yeah, free the robot. Also, matthew David, crazy, crazy producer. I know he still does stuff too, to this day as well. Yeah, those, those two kind of kind of stick out for me.

Speaker 2: 31:53

And uh, as well as getting to see uh cause all organism and like, yeah, he's do one of the goats man cause, cause, all man, I'm like yo, where yo, he ain't dropped the album in so long. I'm like yo, where'd he, where'd he go? But I'm pretty sure you know priorities and stuff like that though. But man, so okay. And then you perform your newest album at um, at beat cinema man. That album that you're talking about is the warmup album, right? So the cover is super dope. First of all, like who, who, who's the cover? Artist?

Speaker 1: 32:30

I think that's duchy, man, that's duchy duchy man, yeah, yeah yeah, just some AI artwork. I was getting real specific with it, though it's kind of I want this next to this and blah, blah, blah. You know, we just kind of picked the best images and put it together.

Speaker 2: 32:45

Man, duchy man Shout out to duchy man. He just got his new spot, man, so I hope he's um gonna be feeling bad. We're going to talk about that past the duchy album as well, man.

Speaker 1: 32:54

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 32:55

Yeah, and um, because that was an amazing um thing that you, you and the homies did. So, but yo, let's talk about the warmup man, the um. Well, first of all, let's go back in your sound cloud, man. Your sound cloud is super heavy man, it's got. You know, I mean you, you did some joints for uh loop sessions Los Angeles, um, hosted by, like, house shoes.

Speaker 2: 33:18

You've been on today's future sound Dr Filthy. Dr Filthy, I'm saying, was on there, man, you've been, you've been performing with the homies. I'm not sure if you've ever done uh, I love supreme California, but, man, one, maybe one day um, let me see. Well, what else have you? Um On the on soundcloud man, soundcloud, your soundcloud, super heavy man. So I'm a link that in the description to show everybody so y'all can tap into Matty J's soundcloud. But, yo, when we talking about the warm-up man, what you do with the warm-up actually is it's been camp Friday. As a record, this man, you're better go back If it's past that, go back and caught and grab this joint man like yo, this joint is amazing, just so you know. You recorded this between some experience between 2019 and 2021, you know, and the and the and the he did a pandemic man, the warm-up man. Can you talk a little bit about the warm-up? You know how, what was the genesis of the warm-up, and you know how it all came together.

Speaker 1: 34:29

Yeah, I mean, I had the idea for the, the title, for a while. I didn't know exactly what joints were gonna go on there, but yeah, it's called the warm-up cuz you know the the kitty funk was that. That single I posted up on my bandcamp was kind of just like, alright, I need to get some music out there. I've been doing this for a while. Soundcloud is cool, but yeah, no, I need. I need to get like something a little bit more official out there. So I'm going through my timeline of making beats and and I'm like you know what here's.

Speaker 1: 35:02

This is a good place to start right here. The start of the pandemic, when, you know, global beat cypher was popping off, everyone's going on these zoom calls session in, you know, and that really pushed me to like. That's when I started to be like, oh shit, yeah, like I'm gonna make beats every day, I'm gonna make two or three beats a day, you know, and just just Kind of combed through a playlist of about I don't know like 30, 40 tracks and just whittled it down to a Think 15. I think it's 15 tracks, but yeah, that's that's where all those joints came from. Was was from these global beat cypher's and they would give you a little sample pack every week or, where one of the people are a special guest, would put together about 15 to 30 minutes worth of samples. They might be the full song, it might be a little snippet, but, um, there's some gold in there.

Speaker 1: 35:54

Man Like if you're if you're ever just like I, want to make a beat, you're kind of don't know what to do. Go to today's future sound sound cloud. Those, those sample packs are still there and they have fucking gold in them.

Speaker 2: 36:07

Yeah, yeah, because they got. They got the samples and if you having drums man, you know I mean these are the main from just one pet.

Speaker 1: 36:16

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, if it's funny too, because if people had the time, you could tell they got busy, because it'd be like, all right, now it's your turn and they would play like eight, eight joints. You know it's like oh man, yeah, you got busy this week, you know.

Speaker 2: 36:30

Man. So you, you know, 15 tracks, you know, produced by you know yourself, of course, master, by your boy packs. You know me shout out to your boy packs and Alba mark by duchy, you know me. So, man, you got. And then you got some you know some other people contributing as well MC Belletta, I hope I'm saying that right and then see a Vita out of chili pysandu.

Speaker 1: 37:00

He's yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:02

He's so man, he's wild because he's a crazy MC. I don't speak Spanish, but I know that he is popping out there and A dude makes the griniest beats. You know he would. We'd go back and forth a little bit. I'd send him some sample packs and he would send me some drums. They were always just smacking. So yeah, those, those are his drums on that track. And then on the last track is a I sent. I sent that beat over to fresh lash. I believe he's Sacramento or Seattle, not sure, but he did the scratches on that last joint.

Speaker 2: 37:37

Man. No, he did his thing. He did his thing, man. Mc Beglaida did it, did his thing as well. Yo, you did your thing. On here, man, 15 tracks on this joint, man. If y'all haven't tapped into the warm-up, tap into the warm-up, man, I think a lot, of, a lot of ears need to be listening to this joint. It's inspiring as well, man, just what you did with it from. Um, what do you call it? When you put the, the tracklist in order, how you, you know how you want the feeling to go? Um, man, I forgot the term.

Speaker 1: 38:14

Arrangement.

Speaker 2: 38:16

Arrangement man, sequence Sequencing man. Your sequencing was was dope man, and then you brought in a heavy hitter man, you know, master, and your boy, your boy packs like what made you? What made you bring in this, this, this guy that's doing some amazing joints Because he's a he's a love supreme california member, but he's also been doing his thing on his own beats as well and creating freaking, where you call them vs T's man. He'd be doing it all these.

Speaker 1: 38:50

He's wild but at the same time man like love supreme beats. These are, these are all the homies man, the the ecosystem out here in LA is is crazy dude, like there's so many little collectives and you know burgers and beats man salute to them. Yeah, these are all the homies. We run into each other at least once or twice a month. You know like packs, packs as the boy. No pun intended, but he's dead down.

Speaker 2: 39:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:18

I've been well aware that that he he does his thing with the. The master he's came over helped out. My roommate had a had a route his 48 channel mixer to the, to the compressors and whatnot. Like he knows what he's doing and at the time I I have a little bit more confidence in it now but I Wasn't really sure on what mastering was. I was putting stuff on my master on individual tracks but I'd never really kind of Done it for an album and I kind of needed some help with that. So Apparently, I was the first person to actually sit with him in the room and give him like notes as we went along and be like, oh man, like bring up that snare a little bit on that one, or you know.

Speaker 1: 40:04

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah we get. We took about like seven hours and just yeah banged out and like one afternoon, one evening.

Speaker 2: 40:12

Wow, wow, man. That's that's really caring about the, caring about how you want your, your project to be received. Man, I Yo, you did your thing on this joint man, you did your thing on this joint man, like the warm-up Everybody. I'm gonna put his discography inside of the description of the show internet. So don't worry, man, just go scroll down into the description. You can look. You'll find the socials, you'll find his, his discography and some, some other, some other treats in there as well. Man, what, what is Maddie J using today to create music?

Speaker 1: 40:53

Yeah, I'm still in in Ableton. Yeah, that that's so. Usually if I, if I'm just like, oh, I feel like making a beat, then I just open up Ableton. I have like Some preset BSTs. I have like a preset drum rack with a lot of like a Lot of dope packs in there. You know, obviously, like the count, tereek Elliott, omari jazz, these are like kicks and snares I'm constantly using.

Speaker 1: 41:22

But I Also I also own a bit of outboard gear. I have the electron model samples. I love using that thing for drums. It can just do some things a little bit quicker and a little bit more unique to it than Ableton. Um, and then same thing with like keys and other kind of melodic sounds. I have a couple of synthesizers. I got the barringer model D and the Arturia micro freak. Um. So yeah, in terms of in terms of gear, those are kind of like my three, three pieces of gear that that produce sounds, and I also have some guitar pedals and Other things to get, you know, a little bit more unique, characteristic to the stuff that I record into Ableton.

Speaker 2: 42:09

Wow, man, synthesizers. Like what got you into using synthesizers?

Speaker 1: 42:19

You know my I gotta tell you, my, my roommate I moved in with. Like he was the dude that that showed me how to really use Ableton, like Dutchy was trying to teach me. But he had a very specific process and it didn't really click.

Speaker 1: 42:33

And then and then, when my roommate showed me, oh, this is how you do clips, and it all clicked and he had like, uh, he had just gotten a moag and he had like a Waldorf Synth as well and I was like, oh man, like this is uh, I like having my hands on this stuff. It's different than using a vst. So you know, I started small, the um, the barringer, I don't know. I think it was under like $300. So I was like all right.

Speaker 1: 42:57

I'll pull the trigger on this. And yeah, after I got that I was like man, I Kind of just want to fill my desk with shit. You know it just started, started buying a bunch of gear.

Speaker 2: 43:09

Man, um, what would be your, your, your best tip to Some beat makers that you know maybe just starting out, um, on this journey, man, what would be your best tip that you would give them? Um, as far as making music or creating music?

Speaker 1: 43:30

For like a like, a very, very beginner like you're just starting, or?

Speaker 2: 43:34

yeah, just yeah, just starting out, man okay, um.

Speaker 1: 43:38

So I was gonna say for intermediate kind of people if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know, if you're using, if you're very comfortable with koala, uh, keep using koala. If you want to learn Ableton, go for it. But you know, if you have things that you do In a certain software, it just just keep doing that. If it sounds good, it sounds good. You know, trust your instincts, um, but yeah, I think, for for beginners, I would really actually, you know, maybe load in some of your your favorite beats, your favorite songs by artists and and try to try to drum along, try to finger drum along with the with the drum progression, try to try to figure out some chords. Um, look up some classic samples, see how you can flip it your own way, you know.

Speaker 2: 44:21

That's cute. Yeah, man, that's, that's a dope one man, because I just recently started doing that as well, man, um, you know, just finding some of my like Joints that I feel like are, um, I just do this dope joints and then I'm just gonna try to get it done and drumming to that, and then, you know, so my finger drumming is getting a little bit better now, but If I'm trying to do it in front of people, probably not, but um, but yeah, man, that was a dope, that's a dope technique, man. So, yeah, man, shout out, yo, shout out to you, man for giving that out to them. Um, my next question would be as far as creating uh, well, not creating, but um, either, inspiration, wise, um, is there anything that you have either read, listen to, even watched, um, that has inspired you to, you know, to keep creating music and or take chances and experiment with, with other types of, you know, either samples or um machines or or anything like that?

Speaker 1: 45:41

Hmm, I gotta say, like just again, like being in LA and being Surrounded by the people who I'm surrounded by, like I'm I'm very lucky to be blessed with, like you know, um, like like my homies, like like who knows, and it's a key and less lock heart, like you know, we have like a little group chat going every once in a while, like they'll throw a joint in there and be like hey, what do you guys think? And it's like yo, this is, this is insane, you know. And then we'll, we'll talk shop a little bit like how'd you get this sound or how'd you do that little? You know just trading little little tips and tricks and and, uh, yeah, the, the homies, like they're, they're the ones that really Keep, keep it moving, keep keep me progressing.

Speaker 2: 46:21

Wow man, oh, I gotta tell you this before I, before I forget. So, from the warm up man, I you know I got a less man. Um, warming up is, warming up is dope. Uh, killy jazz, that's a dope name. Batter, by the way, um, slumped, slumped over. Um, here we go now, tokyo drifting, uh, cosmic sink, like yo man man, yo them jerseys, sheesh boy. Yeah, we definitely gonna have to. I might, I might actually just fade out this right here and then bring that in real quick, because you gotta, they gotta, hear this joint. Yeah, um, yeah, I might do that.

Speaker 1: 47:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 47:06

My ideas as I'm talking to you Um, but yeah, let me, let me go. Let me talk to you about um, um, something that you just did a couple months ago, man, and it was a uh A fundraiser for duchy. Man who's uh if anybody's been following duchy or dutch massive um, you know he's had his um medical issues, medical issues that really, you know, the medical system really is not um helping them with. But you and the homies did something amazing, which was create a uh a fundraiser for duchy and create a Uh past the dutch compilation tape. That is so dope man. Like so many of the homies, actually Yo are featured on this joint Um. Can you tell me about how this came together and and what was the thought process behind past the dutch compilation?

Speaker 1: 48:11

Yeah, oh, man. So you know, uh, every once in a while, you know, I'll just, I've known dutch for over 10 years now. So, uh, you know We'll, we'll catch up, and then when we catch up, we might stay in a lot of contact for a week or two. You know, we'll see what's going on in each other's lives. And you know, at the time he was Went, you know about a couple weeks before we actually put this out, it was really fast, like the whole process was was quick. Um, but yeah, we, uh, I found out.

Speaker 2: 48:43

His grandmother passed away.

Speaker 1: 48:45

He had his, his health concerns and so, um, yeah, we we always had something in mind to kind of like help him out, but it was really Less less all-card. He had the idea to put put together the, the compilation, and I was like, oh bet, like yeah, let's pull the trigger on that. So, um, we just started, you know, of course, we got the homies on board first and then we started to reach out to some other people and, uh, you know, just being friends with dutch for this long, I kind of knew Uh producers and uh people who he's Collab with over the years and people that he, you know, um, have came in contact with and stayed friends with. So, um, yeah, we actually did all this without his knowledge too. We were just doing this all behind the scenes and people were making stuff for this. We kind of gave it like a week and a half, like a two week timeline. Some people sent in joints that they knew like oh yeah, this is the one like speaking of Kazal.

Speaker 1: 49:49

Like, I think that joint that he sent in was a joint that he was playing live at a show. I believe that like delicious final, and then Dutch started rapping over it live. So that happened to be the one that he sent in. So there's deeper meanings behind some of these tracks that people sent in that are, you know, significant to Dutch. But yeah, man, it just started to grow and grow and grow. I think we were shooting for like 20, 25 people ended up being almost 40, you know. But I got to say, man, like that's that that compilation is definitely like one of my more like proudest accomplishments music wise, just being a part of that, helping put it together. You know, I sequenced the album. I had to go through all these tracks and figure which ones are going to sound good back to back, and it was. It was a busy couple of weeks, man, but but we made it happen. Yeah, I am more than happy with the outcome.

Speaker 2: 50:45

Man, if you, if you don't mind, man, I got to run down the list of names on this joint man, because this is people from all over, man, all different types of levels when it comes to our beat community. Man, if you don't mind, yeah, man, okay, so we talk about. These are the, these are the mutants on this album and featured on this album, and I want to say thank you for doing this. Everybody that contributed to, to making this a reality. Thank you as well, man. And you know, I saw the message that Dutchie put out, man, he said he was crying man. So you know, I mean, like that's what it's all about man, touching the fellow, our fellow man and woman, man, so, but yo, it's Antwan Chaknasa to North R&D one L, lord Stan, weirdo, low key. Dotto lean, lean, ashtray Jenkins, australian man, eski. Les Lockhart, who actually, I think, did the artwork as well. Boy packs, bryson, thank you, press more solace. D B Yasi, who knows Olarian, nods your head.

Speaker 2: 52:31

Maddie J, again eloquent to Rick Elliott Wave groove to key, or Marry Jazz featuring. I think that's bully, bully, okay, Cause our organism. Les Lockhart, again bully. And then J vinyl man. These are is 35 tracks, man and more. This is definitely one of the ones that, um, yeah, I might have to put at the end of the year, man, when it comes to my like beat, beat tapes and instrumental albums of the year. I know it came out 23, but it was the last part of 20. I'm still putting it in there for 2024. I don't even care.

Speaker 2: 53:15

Yeah, but yeah, man, but yo like people can still Grab this album and contribute to those efforts, right? So, um, yeah, yeah, can you? Can you just talk about it, like how can they support the initiative that you were, you and the fellow homies were doing?

Speaker 1: 53:34

Yeah, so just go to past, past the Dutch dot org. I am not sure if the go fund me is still going, but I know that that definitely raised the the most amount of money, I think. I think less was running that. And then this, the compilation, was the first thing that we put under the organic beat sessions, band camp. So, um, yeah, by the album. And then, you know, anytime I start to get some, some funds, I just send them over to Dutch. And this thing got so much support, like I'll just take this time to say, you know, thank you to everyone that supported this. I had to fill out a W nine because it's made over $600. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 54:18

Yeah, wow, well, listen, um, yeah, even though it's $10, man, you're about to get $610. I forgot I got to grab that tonight. So, um, so all the proceeds can go directly to what you're all doing, man, oh, yeah, man, I hope that she is feeling way better Not that his environment has changed, and you know, because he's been documented his journey as well, moving from where he was to his new spot. So, yeah, man, yeah, man, thank you for doing that. And and I think it's visit past the Dutchorg, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's where it's at. So, yeah, I'm going to link that in the description of the show as well. And if it's still live and kicking internet, go ahead and contribute to that. Man, if you buy the album, it goes directly towards taking care of one of the homies. Man, I mean, what better thing to, to, to donate to or contribute to, than supporting your fellow man?

Speaker 1: 55:20

Yeah, Absolutely, absolutely, man yeah.

Speaker 2: 55:24

Man, um man, I got a um, so my next thing was talking about um and you started something. Maybe two years ago it might be your own. It's third year now Organic beat sessions.

Speaker 1: 55:39

Yes, sir, yeah yeah, Three years or something.

Speaker 2: 55:41

Three years running, man. Um, can you talk it's so dope, man. And when I see the videos of y'all performing in this in this record store. But can you talk about the, the idea to start To start organic beat sessions, where that came from? And um, you know what's kept you going for the last three years of performances, man? Because I think you got organic beat sessions. I think y'all have over 150, you know, say like beat sets on yo I'm going to link to YouTube, but yo, man, y'all been rocking out that rock the record store, man.

Speaker 1: 56:19

Yeah, yeah, man, actually I was kind of holding off because I know we had a little discussion about the far side. But, um, yeah, I was holding off, on, on, on mentioning because I knew we were going to touch on it. But, um, at, at the time of the pandemic, um one, one of my old coworkers actually got to be pretty cool with him. He was more into like, like, techno, house music, but you know, nonetheless he's an Ableton guy. We would always chop it up and, uh, use a couple of years younger than me, but you know, we became friends over time and, um, his cousin was doing, I believe, some, some art work or or webpage design for farside TV, which was, uh, run by Booty Brown from the farside. And you know, during the pandemic, twitch is taking off, everybody's moving to online stuff and he was looking for DJs. And you know, uh, my friend's cousin mentioned him. Hey, my cousin DJs. And he's like, okay, bring him in. And uh, my homie hits me up and he's just like, I don't know, I'm not a hip hop guy. Like I'm, I make house music. Like I don't you want to come with me? I'm like Ab's the fucking Lutely.

Speaker 1: 57:28

So we go into a store two, four, two in Gardena, um, it is a storefront and you can buy like, uh, they got incense and and crystals as well as a bunch of clothing. They have some, some records and some crates, and then the other half of that is like a podcast studio for farside TV and, um, yeah, he would, he would host DJs, they. They had a little podcast on there too. Um, I believe it was a Craig Fax. He's like a comedian, he would do stuff on there and, um, yeah, so we started just to do every Wednesday, we were doing DJ gigs and we would, we would physically go in there and we would each do an hour set. Um and I, we would all sometimes play original music in there, but I saw beat cinema actually move to Twitch. You know, because we can't do anything, everything's shut down, it's the pandemic.

Speaker 1: 58:26

So, they, they started to hit people up and, um, have them send in pre recorded sets, and I was like you know what, through today's Future Sound and all this other stuff that's online like Instagram, I've met a lot of dope, dope producers that I want to give some shine to and I threw it out there and, uh, at first he was a little hesitant. He's like that's a, that's a lot of moving pieces. Like I was like you know what, just, you know all, collect all the sets. We'll share a draw box, I'll put them in there, put them in order and just just hit play. And then, whenever we have the date for the show, that's that's when all the sets would play back to back. So, yeah, yeah, man, that's kind of how it came to be. Uh, I would, I would just reach out to someone, I would tell them, you know, 20, 30 minutes set, depending on how many people we'd have. And it's up to them, however, they'd want to do it. Some people would, you know, pick a cool spot and show their face and actually film it with a camera. Other people would just do just visual visualizers or take clips from movies and put their beats behind it.

Speaker 1: 59:28

But, yeah, man, I really couldn't believe the reception we got, even on the very first episode. Like I was heavily watching Omar Jazz at the time and I just he had a, he had a little section on his discord. That was like, you know, promote your streams or promote your, your, your shows. And I put it in there and I said, you know, first, first episode with myself, bobby Mack works and less lock art. Just four of us and he popped in there and him and lesser are are are cool. So he was like oh, did less perform yet and I'm like dude, it's the first set. You came in like pretty early on. He's like, okay, bet, he threw it out to his discord message like come here, and then just like 60 people, 75 people, just joined the stream and so I was like oh, that was on episode one. So I had.

Speaker 1: 1:00:22

I had a lot of motivation to keep it going, not to mention a lot of other people and names.

Speaker 2: 1:00:27

I wanted to get some shine to and have people meet, you know man, there's so many, and it's people coming from across the world to come perform at organic beat sessions. To me once, everything started opening back up and stuff like that. But I was watching the online joints. I don't think I was on Twitch quite yet, I think I was just seeing everything on YouTube, but man, or on Instagram, but man, yo. It was very like yo, how are they doing? Like, how are y'all doing this? Everybody's got their own joints. And then y'all, like I was always wondering like how did y'all do that? And I was like I don't know. But, man, I'm glad you did it though, because you somebody could have talked to you out of it right away. You know it was a lot of moving people Everybody says that but you chose to go ahead and pull the trigger. Man, like, why did you treat? Why did you still choose to do it?

Speaker 1: 1:01:27

And I got, you know, shout out, shout out to Brown, booty Brown, from the far side, man, he, he saw that people were into it. He was like, oh, okay, yeah, let's, let's keep doing this, you know. So, yeah, we just kept it going. At the time, you know, I'd met some cats from Australia. They were doing kind of a similar thing Pizza Night Shout out, shout out, lash, lash. You know, we did our second show to kind of a little collaboration with them, and then after that we moved it a little collaboration with today's Future Sound. And then after that I kind of just started just reaching out to people. I'd give them about a month, months notice and I just started booking it up like months and months in advance, yeah, and, and we did that for the better part of, I want to say, like a year and a half. And then we found JDC records and, yeah, started started doing it live in person when everything started to open back up.

Speaker 2: 1:02:26

Man, jdc records, that record store God, everybody always takes like videos going out from the outside, going in. Yeah man, it's got so much musical energy in that spot, like so many people have come through there. Jdc. I don't know who owns JDC records, but man.

Speaker 1: 1:02:48

The owner is Jim and he actually used to engineer for Bootsy Collins, george Clinton. You know he did a lot of the P-Funk stuff back in the 70s and they actually used to distribute records. So I think during the 80s they started to work a lot with the Egyptian Lover as well, and Egyptian Lover still comes through once a year at the end of the year and performs there. So, yeah, there's there's a lot of rich, rich history with with JDC records.

Speaker 2: 1:03:21

Man, how did you even, how did you even come in contact with you, know Farside and the group members from the Farside and JDC records? How did you all connect? How did you all connect the dots to make this happen?

Speaker 1: 1:03:38

So, like I stopped kind of doing the Twitch stuff when, when everything started to open back up, I just, you know, now I'm starting to do my, my work, you know, working part time, full time. So you know, my, my, my, you know I'm just shifting around my priorities here a little bit. Yeah, I was through. My buddy that I used to work with is his cousin, used to do work for Farside, doing some like webpage design and stuff. So that's how we met with Booty Brown, who runs Farside TV, and with JDC. I actually live pretty, pretty close in proximity to JDC records.

Speaker 1: 1:04:20

One day it was, it was actually to keep to key and who knows, came over to make some beats. We were making beats like every Sunday for a good, good part of the year. We were just having these, these sessions. And he's like we always saw the record store. We've been meaning to go in. He's like you guys want to go to the record store today or like, yeah, fuck it, let's go walk in. And yeah, we met Suzanne, who's kind of like an operating manager there she's. She's there pretty much every day of the week and she, you know, salute to Suzanne man. She was and still is very receptive to us. You know she even started to let us host flip a B club there when, when we started to get involved with that. And yeah, it's, it's still going. You know we have a show in two days there. So you know, from from, from twitch to the record store. Man, yeah, just keeping it going.

Speaker 2: 1:05:10

Yo yo, very inspiring, and you like? What episode or what show numbers this that you're about to go into?

Speaker 1: 1:05:19

Okay, so I think I kind of lost track of the twitch shows. I broke them up to to twitch, we made it to 23 twitch shows, and it's so that's. That's once a year, so yeah, and then we are on 17 live shows. Yeah, man we did double up a couple of months and then maybe took a month off here and there. So it's, it's, you know, but for the most part it's once a month.

Speaker 2: 1:05:55

And you know, it's just. I'm gonna go through some of the people that just been coming through through the record store joints. Man, you got third child Off, off grid. Allamode wave groove Zelante, telly McLean, who's yo? Man, that guy's crazy with the. With the beat, the beats yo.

Speaker 1: 1:06:21

Shout out, telly man.

Speaker 2: 1:06:22

Telly man Um, let me see who else One third, eero Zilla shout out to Eero Zilla. Man Just turn. I think 42. I'm not sure, um, um, ali Wan Kenobi. Man like Mr Low. Man like so many you got so many people coming through there. Man Like um, and I know it's like time consuming and um, you know, sometimes it's maybe not being enjoyable and stuff like that, but I do want to ask this question because I do want to see things like this grow and continue to help other beat makers, music producers, get you know, perform live and get out of there, get out of the bedroom or wherever they make in their music. What can we do? What can the internet listening to this do to help you push this even more?

Speaker 1: 1:07:17

Oh, man, you know, visit, visit the YouTube you can watch. Well, I'm a little bit behind on on editing some of these shows now, but you know everything pretty much about eight months behind, honestly, but everything up until that point is is recorded and documented on on YouTube. So that's, that's all of the JDC shows, as well as all the Twitch stuff as well, and then you can obviously go to our band camp, get the past, the Dutch compilation and man also, if you're interested in performing, just shoot either organic beat sessions or Maddie J DM on on Instagram. If you're, I love featuring people that are traveling and coming into town. You know, just just rock with us for a night.

Speaker 2: 1:08:04

Man tapes Rhino, willie Bundo, strong, maurice, all the way. Yo man, like yo, sylvan Corden, jax, tilda Funk, jester, like be with, shout out to be with me. Yeah, man, so many people. Yo man, yeah, we guys. I like to see things like this keep happening, man, especially in record stores. Like man, like that's yo, that's dope man, that's dope man, Yo keep keep doing this man. However, the rex show podcast and can support you man, just shoot me, dm me man, let me know I got you. Man, I ain't you know anytime you know for real.

Speaker 1: 1:08:50

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 1:08:52

I got to ask you about and this last last few questions, because I know you got things to do with Friday, um it's all good. I've got to ask you about your, your beat making process Like what is what is your process like when you're about to sit down and just start creating something? What is it? What is that? What is it? What is it like before, during and after?

Speaker 1: 1:09:26

Man, there's, I feel like there's always a jump off point and it can be anything from a sample or even just like a hi hat progression. You know, like a little something I've been tapping all day. I'm like, oh man, I need to, I need to record that when I get home, or something like that. And then, jumping off from there, I just start start adding shit. You know, going back to why why I love Ableton they have this feature called capture and if you play any MIDI like you could be playing, you could just be jamming for, I think, up to 30 minutes. And if you like what you just did, you're like, oh shit, next to the record button, you just hit the capture button. You don't even have to be recording It'll, it'll save it and then it'll just pop up and you can just start going through and picking out loops and you can start ranging it from there. Pull up, pull up some more VST, start start adding and layering. And you know, manipulating audio.

Speaker 1: 1:10:26

I love taking like, if it's a, if it's an audio clip or you know some, some chops. I'm like, okay, well, what does this sound like if I hit half time? What does it sound like if I pitch it up an octave. What is you know? Just, it's really messing around. You know, I don't really know what the outcome is going to be. Sometimes Sometimes I do. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I got a good idea, but other times I'm just like, oh, what if I reverse this? What's that going to sound like? You know? Just just play around with it, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:10:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done that too, man. Just I'm like man, I'm not really like set on this, what it may be a sample or something like that. I'm like, ah, let me see what happens if I reverse the chops and then play the chops and then there's usually something like holy crap.

Speaker 2: 1:11:10

Yeah, it's like a holy crap moment, like, oh snap, like that would be worth it. Then you get the drums right. Yeah, oh, man, creation is so crazy. Man Like man, I, I. Every time I like I don't know if it's you, know for you, but every time I like make something that's like so good, I'm like I put my hands in my face Like, oh my gosh, thank you, man. Cause you know, sometimes it can be a little bit hard creating, especially, you know, with daily life going on and you know work, school, you know adult responsibilities happening. But you know, like, how do you overcome, you know, every your, your, your daily life and and give it time in your, you know, creation life. Like how do you balance that?

Speaker 1: 1:12:04

I'd say just just set, set small goals.

Speaker 1: 1:12:07

You know, I think when I was first starting off was was, you know, I would set these big, lofty expectations on myself and sometimes they would get achieved. But sometimes I won't, and you're just kind of setting yourself up for disappointment when you do that. So if you just say to yourself, like I haven't cooked up in a few days and I got a couple of days off of work coming up, I'm going to cook one beat each day and I'm just going to make a four bar loop, I guarantee you it'll, it'll turn into an eight bar loop and then you'll make a whole track out of it. You just have to get that starting point, you know, just open up, able to just make some drums chop it up a little bit and then, even if it's not something you like, hopefully you still learn something from the process of, of why maybe that didn't work exactly or maybe it really worked. And and you, you have a new trick that you're going to do to every single one of your beats from that point on.

Speaker 2: 1:13:03

You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you for that, man. Yeah, that's definitely a key that you just dropped on us right now. You know gems that you just dropped on us. Oh, man, I almost forgot. Man, I have to ask you about this, uh, pure sampling volume one that you contributed to um, which came out in like 2022, I believe, man, that's a um, a dope collage of sounds as well. Like what was that process? Like? Uh, contributing to pure sampling volume one? Oh, yeah, yeah Um no, you forgot, you even created. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:13:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:13:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:13:49

That's, that's the homie, uh, proctess. Uh, I believe he's out of Chile. And again, that's another uh, today's future sound connection. Um, that dude you know different time zones and whatnot when we're on the zoom calls. He would be like either just waking up or be up for like 18 hours to stay on the zoom call with us. And uh, yeah, he just reached out and you know, at the time I was, I was doing those Sunday sessions with Tiki and who knows. So I had a lot of a lot of joints that never got released and I said, hey, well, you know, can I send you some collab stuff or do you want stuff for me? And he ended up picking out, uh, two joints one of my uh solo tracks and that one I made with uh who knows.

Speaker 2: 1:14:32

Yeah, yeah, wow man that's a proctess man. Yeah, proctess man Yo um, I didn't know it was from. I didn't know he was from Chile, though. Wow, wow, yeah, yeah, we really, we all over man, so many, yeah man. That gives me a start.

Speaker 1: 1:14:54

Yeah, Shout out to shout out to filthy man Philip Drummond, that dude stays traveling.

Speaker 2: 1:14:58

Yeah, yeah, he all over. Man Like um, yeah, man, as a matter of fact, internet's man, go ahead and tap into um Philip Drummond's episode. Man, we did a uh, a second episode Um, and we talked about a lot of different things. Man, he dropped us so many gems on that episode Um, I think it was like maybe the second to the last episode last year in season three. But yo man, tap in, tap into that man, he's um, he's doing some amazing things with today's future sound and his nonprofit that he started and, um, you know, just reaching so many people. Man, that um, man, he, yo, yeah, support the homie man. That's all I'm gonna say is support the homie man and uh, contribute. Whenever you know the uh, you know the fun, the, the, the, the fundraising starts, contribute man, he, um, he hooked me, I actually I got to do a video about what he sent me too, man, so you know um man, yo, maddie J man Um, you know this is only part one.

Speaker 2: 1:16:02

This is only a snapshot of where you are right now. You know where you came from, you know where you are right now, um and I, I open this is an open invitation man, like, if you um everyone to come back on the show, man, the door is open now you got to do his DME. Let me know, you ain't. You know? No, said man, just we got to set a date and let's go, brother, like you got an album coming out. Hit me up, man, you want to. You want to promote it when we want to talk, you want to do a segment, because I also do, uh, beat stermanos, man, where you know I link with um, my fellow mutants, and they got an album coming out and then we just do an album, a track by track play and just talk about the album and you know what was the inspiration behind it and everything that went into creating this album. So yeah, man, it's an open invitation for you. Maddie J, I appreciate you, man.

Speaker 1: 1:16:57

Oh, I'm much loved man. Likewise man, they had a time on sloobie Super quick man Like yo.

Speaker 2: 1:17:05

That's how yo, we can talk for hours on this stuff, man, but you know things, my girls is knocking on the door right now Like yo, daddy, we need you. So I'm like, I'm like, all right, um, but yeah, man, I, um, I appreciate you. How can, how can the internet's tap into you and where can they find you on the on the internet's man.

Speaker 1: 1:17:31

Yeah, man, um, we mentioned a lot of it. You know you can check out my soundcloud. I think my earliest track just hit like 11 years old, so I got a lot of stuff on there. Uh, bandcamp, you know, uh got that single up on there and my album, the past, the Dutch Puro sampling, um, and then also shout out, shout out to Bobby Mack, man, he, oh, uh, during I think it was like a tail end of the pandemic he put me on, uh, the Coddy Wampool compilation and that was another huge like achievement for me. Man, that's got a lot of heavy hitters on there, like soundtracks on there. Fucking Duke West Lake Deary has it, uh, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:18:10

So, yeah, check out Coddy Wampool records, uh, compilation, um, and then, as well, you know, check out organic beat sessions. We just put out the past, the Dutch thing, but I think we're in talks of of, you know, starting to release a couple of the homies projects as well as, um, I got a ton of ton of, uh, uh, collapse that I've done with with all the local homies. You know, shout out, press more is to key. Who knows less lock heart, um, yeah, man, um, just just got a lot of stuff in the works. I got a lot of stuff you know backlogged I got to put out still.

Speaker 2: 1:18:45

So you won't be busy then. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:18:47

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just you know, keep, keep you ear to the ground. Uh, follow Maddie J, follow organic beat sessions.

Speaker 2: 1:18:54

Yeah, man, yo, the internet's. Go ahead and follow them. Right now I'm a link to link all the links where you can find them. Support, contribute, um on a description of the show, especially to the, the the past, the Dutchy, uh compilation. Um, man, I'm a link that in the description of the show as well. Um, man, maddie J man, or do you have like any um, any thoughts? You want to leave the the listeners or the the mutants? Um, before you go, man, just uh, just just keep it moving.

Speaker 1: 1:19:34

You know, I know it's, uh, it's, there's a lot of us out there, there's a lot of producers. I know sometimes it could be a little, a little bit overwhelming, but if this is truly something that you enjoy and that you you like doing, just just just keep, keep at it. You know I'm still learning stuff every day, um, whether it's you know a little research I'm doing or from the homies you know like, and if you, if you hear something you like, like, just reach out to people, man, a lot of people are very receptive. I found through over the years, um and uh, I've, I've built some great relationships, just just cold calling, just hitting people up and them being receptive and and, uh, yeah, just just building some great relationships over the years.

Speaker 2: 1:20:20

I got you. I got you, man, yo, I want to say thank you for your time, you know. Thank you for your energy, man, thank you for doing what you do with, you know, your music and and and organic beat sessions and um, especially for um, what you did for uh, you and the homies did for a duchy man, duch massive man, um, man, I really appreciate you, man, and I wish you uh blessings, um, for the rest of the year. Man, I'm definitely tapped in and I know the NNS that are listening to this episode are going to tap in with you on your socials and um, on the YouTubes and organic beat sessions as well. Man, a farsight TV. Shout out to farsight as well. Um, and JDC, is it JDC record store? Yeah, yeah, shout out to JDC record store as well. Man, that's in California, is that? Is that a part of LA?

Speaker 1: 1:21:14

Yeah, so it's. We're pretty south, but San Pedro is still city of Los Angeles.

Speaker 2: 1:21:19

San Pedro. Okay, yeah, Shout out to all my to San Pedro man.

Speaker 1: 1:21:23

San Pedro.

Speaker 2: 1:21:25

Man, shout out to y'all man, but I want to say thank you, man. Thank you for your time. Man and um, again, open invitation whenever you want to come back. Man, you know I'm trying to keep this thing going for at least 20 years, if not more. Man, I'm only on year four, so we still a baby man. So, um, we're going to see you again. Ain't no doubt about that, man. I appreciate you bro.

Speaker 1: 1:21:50

Hell yeah, man, and I want to give you your flowers too. Man, this is really dope what you're doing. And uh yeah, man, I know how it can be like juggling life and then trying to trying to do something a little bit extracurricular as well. So I I mad respect for what you're doing, man. Much love.